Sandy Reid of the People's Tribune interviewed Richard Monje, Vice President of Workers United, about the next step for labor. Part one of this interview was published in the August, 2011 edition of the People's Tribune.
People's Tribune: Richard, what is the step for labor?
Richard Monje: The next step for labor is to clearly determine the role labor will play. There are many indications that labor does not know where to go so they are constantly repeating the same old thing. They are hoping that some individual will come in and save the institutions that they had. So the faith was held in the Democratic Party institutions-that Carter, then Clinton and now Obama has the solutions-that there can be a new agreement made between the corporations (and the wealthy) and working people (and the poor) to form a new political coalition of forces. There is no indication that such a coalition can be built.
Brezinski recently stated that if the U.S. continued down the course it is heading, there would be deep social unrest. I agree. There are also a whole bunch of other people trying to figure out what kind of program could link together the social unrest, not just over job loss, but also over trade, and all of the issues that are affecting people's everyday life. There seems absolutely no interest on the part of the Democratic Party or the Republicans-nor among the groupings of capital that sought compromise with the anger and frustration in the 1930s and 1940s-to form that kind of coalition. On the contrary, they are putting institutions and laws in place to further control the anger and frustration.
The unions are going to participate in the construction of something extremely conservative and narrow on self-interests-or they can transform into a different kind of organization. Instead of simply negotiating contracts for the self-interests of the workers they represent, they could seek to represent the basic members as only a part of a broader section of people. They could utilize their resources to assist in identifying what kind of new economic models can be created. Take a look at a Wisconsin. There's social organization in all of the towns and rural areas that expressed a programmatic point of view of what should happen in this country on the budget crisis. They should have an opinion and they should fight for that opinion. I don't think the unions or the labor movement can do this by themselves. But we need to play a role in the reconstruction of the economic model that expresses a new way to distribute goods and services in this country and who pays for it.
PT: Is there motion toward a third party?
RM: There is a constant bubbling of interest towards building all kinds of parties. None of the "legitimate" institutions or organizations is a part of that process. Right now they are dedicated to the re-election of Barak Obama. So what is left is anger and frustration and a large mass of people who have no organizational expression, no leadership speaking on their behalf, and at any point can explode. The best example of this was the response in Wisconsin to the Republican's actions.It wasn't led by a national leader, by the Democratic Party or Obama. It was an expression of people who lived in small rural areas, of students and some union activists, but it didn't require leaders to say, "Let's do X, Y, Z." It was led by local leaders who were tied to teachers, who were tied to fire-fighters, who were tied to the other trade unions, who were tied to people who used to belong to unions in the Fox River Valley, where all of the paper mills used to be and have since closed. Literally tens of thousands of families are connected to that history, that union history, to an economic model of who is responsible and what do I contribute to society so that society can take care of me, my family and my community. I think this is a model of what can happen when we don't have a third party, an independent political expression outside of the Democratic and Republicans debating how much to do we cut, rather than solving the problem of a lack of jobs, health care and poverty. Right now there are organizations that are attempting to form parties. That is an important step, but right now it hasn't congealed. So it remains small isolated groups and the general broad base of mass social discontent is disconnected from the attempts to form that party.
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